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Comments on “Those Who Keep Saying “I am Proud to be a Filipino” When Manny Pacquiao Wins are Morons”

    • UP nn grad wrote on 14 November, 2010, 15:43

      It takes a lot of courage and even preparation to undertake an illegal-immigration journey from, say, Zimbabwe to France or from Colombia into Canada or from China into USA.

      Food for thought.

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    • Hyden Toro wrote on 14 November, 2010, 16:11

      A nation in delusion will find ways to delude itself deeper…

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    • benign0 wrote on 14 November, 2010, 16:33

      Pinoys are quick to latch on to heroes as a form of validation but then fail to realise that doing so only highlights a pathetic neediness for said validation and their desperate effort to acquire it.

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  • rafterman Reply:

    The media isn’t also being of any good regarding the situation. They just pander to the masses and dish out this “pride” thing which becomes the opium of the Filipino people. They even say that it makes the people happy and “they are happy that way”. To be happy when the country is crap is abnormal behavior. When there are lots of things that are wrong with your country AND people that you should feel anger and rage against those. To be happy will not bring about change but will make the ones who profit from the people’s foolishness and complacency laugh all the way to the bank. The media is one giant “bong” constantly giving “hits” to our foolish countrymen.

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    Twin-Skies Reply:

    What pisses me offis how the adulation for Manny often turns into racist slur against his opponents and their fans nationality.

    Margarito may have lost, but damn it, the man lasted against Manny for 12 rounds and refused to give up. Granted he’s the guy I was cheering against, but he still showed a magnificent fighting spirit…probably more than Manny, given he knew full well how badly stacked the fight was against him.

    People like that do not deserve to be jeered at or ridiculed. They deserve respect.

    And that my countrymen would pounce on a guy who literally withered the storm with every ounce of his being just sicken me.

    To the Pacquiao groupies, I do hope you grow up, before you make even bigger fools of yourselves. Your champion treated his opponents with decency and respect – if you admire the man so much, why the **** can’t you emulate that aspect of him as well?

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    Hsing Tao Reply:

    These are called “Pactards” on the net. There is a difference between a Pacquiao Fan (which I am) and a “Pactard”. A Paquiao fan just cheers him on, is happy when he wins and does not insult his opponents or their race (Hispanic, Black)… A Pactard meanwhile, will insult Mexicans and Blacks and wager the pride, prestige and reputation of the ENTIRE Filipino nation on a person like Pac Man. What if Pac Man loses? They risk losing their pride, prestige and reputation too… Pactards…

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    Jay Reply:

    add those who are constantly trying to shark for potential Manny victims when the man at this point doesn’t have to prove his weight in accomplishments as there aren’t anymore people worth taking their names for as Pactards. As much as a Marquez rematch sounds nice, the guy is past his prime and Manny still riding in his. Mayweather is out of the question and the only thing you get out of that are Pactards trying to out nigger a guy whose already comfortable in his core niggerdom. Basically the relationship of the two is as simple as; Pot, meet kettle.

    archie Reply:

    because they simply can’t emulate his ethics and discipline, when pacman was asked why he kept looking at the referee, he replied with “you know, boxing is not for killing people” short line but shows that he’s a real gentleman in action and words. maybe he is doing this for our pride but people tend to jump the bandwagon and brag about it without even considering other people’s feelings when their nationality is insulted. how come manny, who came from a poor family, lived in slums, never got the education we had when he was young, can still be classy and be sensitive with everything his mouth utters? i guess many filipinos choose to be bozos and idiots with their false bravados rather than do what they must do for their nation. proud to be anti-pinoy here

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  • rafterman wrote on 14 November, 2010, 18:49

    From Pinoy Exchange;

    Kent_210
    Nevermind!

    Join Date: Jul 2005
    Location: Butas ng Karayom! Mainland Chinese are proud because they are the no. 1 exporter in the world. And they have the biggest reserve of foreign currencies.

    Japanese are proud of Mitsubushi, Toyota, Subaru, Honda, Sharp, Panasonic etc…world class products.

    Koreans are proud of their Hyundai, Asiana Airline (best Airline in the World) and LG.

    Malaysians are proud of their Petronas Towers and the massive infrastructures.

    Singapore is proud of their good education system, all of their 4 universities made it to international rankings.

    Vietnamese are proud, they blew Phils, Cambodia, Myanmar and Laos in just 2 years.

    We have Pakyaw! Pag nawala si Pakyaw sa eksena, sino naman? Si Charice??!

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    luraaa Reply:

    THIS. I really think this site is doing me good because when Pacquiao won I was so proud of him, like a mom who has seen him in his early years and watch him improve in every fight (not that I’m older than him, I was just exposed to his fights back then because of my upbringing.).

    That aside, I think Filipinos should be proud of Manny because of his accomplishments, and look up to him as a role model to be a better Filipino for a better Philippines.

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    BongV

    BongV Reply:

    am proud of margarito and pacquiao.. because they breath oxygen like human beings. hey we are human beings, we must be good like pacquiao and manny. wowowee

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    luraaa Reply:

    Definitely. The whole time I was watching the fight, I was thinking that Margarito is one tough man. Although he doesn’t deserve the beatings he received. I’m actually annoyed at his camp especially Garcia because he didn’t even think about Margarito’s cuts and condition. Even Pacquiao was looking at the referee during the 11th round to check up on Margarito. Funny, but until now I’m praying and hoping that he’ll recover soon.

    ChinoF

    ChinoF Reply:

    Yeah, Pacquiao was concerned about Margarito. That was true sportsmanship. That’s what Filipinos should emulate. Not the retard “opponents of Pacquiao are sissies!”

    Aegis-Judex Reply:

    Now THAT is a real fighter. He knows when his foes are beat, and would show concern even to them. God help me if that’s not considered honorable!

    Hsing Tao Reply:

    Yes, then they should be like him, humble in victory. Not insulting to Mexicans like Gel Santos Relos.

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    Sharafa Reply:

    This is an example of depraved pride that Filipinos tend to share. The difference Pacquiao and all other example cited above is that the others were collective achievements done involving companies and institutions, while Pacquiao’s is just the achievement of one man. Yet Filipinos are just satisfied with that (pwede na yan), as they’re afraid to have nothing collective to replace him with. Imagine the mass-despair they would feel if ever Pacquiao does lose a match.

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    rafterman Reply:

    Exactly, by making Pacquiao = Filipino People then when Pacquiao loses, Filipino people = Losers?

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  • BongV
    BongV wrote on 14 November, 2010, 19:14

    Get a load of Filipino racism at its WORST. susmaryosep.

    Follow the thread at http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=164637963567142

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    rafterman Reply:

    Those people just don’t get it BongV!

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    Jay Reply:

    Yolonda acted like she had been watching boxing forever just because she know Freddie Roach trivia, then she quieted down when she couldn’t contribute anymore to the subject regarding the sports. WONDERFUL!

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    ChinoF

    ChinoF Reply:

    ANNOYING. Buncha arrogant imperialists.

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    Homer Reply:

    Yolanda was a barrel of laughs! Is her surname really Nacional? What an irony, hahahaha…

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    blueredicedtea Reply:

    lol @ adolfo’s post

    he said that coloma does not show the collective of the filipino people and yet he’s proud of being a filipino just because of manny pacquiao (it’s just like saying that manny pacquiao represents the filipino people)

    double standard much? i could be wrong though (kinda reminded me of what rafterman pointed out in his post in…i dunno, bad manners club blog? that when tontows praised the achievement of a filipino individual but when they look up at you know…..massacres in the philippines they say that it is not the collective representation of the filipinos? am i right rafterman?)

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  • Rick wrote on 14 November, 2010, 19:26

    I want to see Gel’s supporters’ reply on your comments. Haha. I bet it’s “just shut up kaya di umuunland pinas dahil sa mga taong katulad niyo eh!” Anyway, nice article! I couldn’t agree more!

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    aboy Reply:

    wahahaha…. they are all the same… false pride, false nationalism… natawa ako “just shut up kaya di umuunland pinas dahil sa mga taong katulad niyo eh!”…. sobra common na sagot to ng mga “MAKAPNOY” bhwahahaha….

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    rafterman Reply:

    Their favorite lines:
    Pilipino ka ba? Sarili mong bansa nilalait mo! I am one proud Pinoy because I was born in The Philippines… so senseless.

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  • kssael wrote on 14 November, 2010, 20:11

    @: So much drama lol! Too bad no one ever tried being logical as Warlito.

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    rafterman Reply:

    Gel’s supporters are pretty dumb. They do not like it when truth is dished out at them.

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  • bokyo wrote on 14 November, 2010, 23:34

    I dig the guy who stood up to Gel Santos Relos :D

    That should show how the media convults things. One small ripple from them and it go to a wave

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    rafterman Reply:

    Yes, people have to tell these media personalities off…. Follow the threads here:
    http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=464912408149&id=346576258149&ref=notif&notif_t=likehttp://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=464912408149&id=346576258149&ref=notif&notif_t=like#!/Gel.Santos.Relos/posts/145122058868774

    http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=464912408149&id=346576258149&ref=notif&notif_t=like#!/Gel.Santos.Relos/posts/464678948149

    Follow the postings of Charles Lawrence C

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  • melvin wrote on 14 November, 2010, 23:51

    I totally agree with what you wrote. This really isn’t about us all, it is just between the 2 fighters, 2 fighters that are sizing each other up. Being proud of being a Filipino when someone won an award or thru sports doesn’t mean that we are all great. These individuals are great because of hard work and we cannot say that for ourselves also because we are not them. We are not the one who trained, sacrificed and eventually fight to whatever chances there may be. The applaud should be for the individual not for the entire race itself.

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  • ChinoF
    ChinoF wrote on 15 November, 2010, 0:05

    Gel Santos Relos’ joke was very tasteless. All her good looks quashed by a bad attitude. I’ll never be proud of someone like her. Maybe Pacquiao should beat her up so she can taste what Margarito did and have some sympathy. :P

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    Homer Reply:

    I’m guessing the name Gel is based on the stuff she puts on her hair…kinda like the one used in “There’s Something About Mary”.

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    rafterman Reply:

    You got it Bro. Media people like Relos worsen the tonowness of the Filipino people. Well, they have to pander to the masses to make money so I do not really blame them. Like I always say, if you find peope who like to eat ****, then by all means sell them whatever comes out of your ass.

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    Aegis-Judex Reply:

    And so DEY EAT DA POO POO. Yes, da poo poo dat comes out of de e-nas.

    (Ssempa-speak: They eat $hit. Yes, the s#it that comes out of the anus.)

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  • cardcrusher wrote on 15 November, 2010, 0:30

    Guys, here is another FB post where Pinoys claim Manny’s victory as their own.
    “congratulations to manny pacquiao and to us all….”

    “ i cnt believe me pinagsabong pa ko dito sa fb. but ms. gelyn is so right. i may not tickle mr. pacquiao’s armpit while he’s resting from the big fight and i may not have massaged his legs before and after. no i’m not even a meter away from team pacquiao, but for the sake of being a pinoy i am proud i am part of the race that either floored or face-bloodied the opponents by the gentlemen from saranggani, i even congratulate my askal. temper guys have a nice day…”

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150096790391873&set=o.106259116938

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    ChinoF

    ChinoF Reply:

    “Part of the race” wahahaha, delusion galore. Point them to my article.

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  • aboy wrote on 15 November, 2010, 0:36

    “Gel – I will be happy to engage in exchanging ideas with you on my page”… Can she exchange ideas here at Anti-Pinoy… I think we would love to have them here and have an exchange of ideas with them.. The likes of Conrado, Ricky, MLQ3, Gel, Mai…

    Lastly, kudos to Charles Lawrence… for standing up to what anti-pinoy believes in… Gel got her pacman beating in a different note there… hehehe…

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    rafterman Reply:

    Haha! That’s a good one. Tell that to Gel.

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    Homer Reply:

    We’d like to see that exchange happen with the proud pinoys ending up looking like Margarito after the fight.

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    Homer Reply:

    For the sake of clarity…when i say “proud pinoys”, I’m referring to the ones of the misplaced variety. You know…..the morons.

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    archie Reply:

    gel must be saying now: “**** why did i agree on that fakenoynoy.”

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    JoshBeoulve Reply:

    Wala, she deleted the page din. Tsk tsk tsk. Just when the argument was getting interesting.

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    Jay Reply:

    Looks like Gel didn’t want to go mano-a-mano with AP. Guess she couldn’t put her money where her mouth is, compared to a certain Mayweather.

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  • Kabilang Dako wrote on 15 November, 2010, 0:53

    Susmaryosep. Kung hindi nyo man to maintindihan wala na akong problema dun. Mag tatagalog ako hanggang gusto ko.

    Si manny na rin ang nagsasabi na para sa karangalan ng bansa natin ang tagumpay nya at hindi para sa kanya lang. Sa madaling sabi, para sa lahat ng Pilipino, galit ka man sa kanya, pumusta ka man sa kalaban nya o half filipino ka, basta alam mong pilipino ka, kahit itanggi mo pa yan, kasama ka sa tagumpay nya.

    Mali rin ang sinabi nitong si Gel. maling asal na sabihin nya yun. lumaban ng maayos si Margarito at di maitatanggi na magaling din sya. at wala naman akong nakikitang masamang ginawa ng mga Mexicano para sabihin nya sa media yung ganung kagaguhan. me topak lang ata yun.

    Pilipino ako at proud ako na pilipino ako hindi dahil sa nanalo si manny o kung sino pa man na nagbigay ng karangalan sa pilipinas. :D

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    ChinoF

    ChinoF Reply:

    Yun nga… yung may tunay na pagmamahal sa bansa na Filipino, hindi lalaitin si Margarito.

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    Maki_Alam Reply:

    Kung si Manny nga, nirerespeto ang kalaban nya at hindi iniinsulto ang lahi nila, eto pa kayang mga rabid fans nya? Sino ba akala nila sa sarili nila?

    And then this Gel woman even goes so far as to justify her comment with U.S. illegal immigration quotes. Buti pa si Mai Mislang, nag-apologize sa comments nya. Etong si Gel pinaninindigan pa yung sa kanya.

    It’s these disgraceful specimens of the Pinoy nation that’s the target of this article, those who think it’s the height of nationalism to belittle other nations or make a joke at other people’s expense.

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    migs42 Reply:

    Wala namang mali sa pagiging “Nationalist”. I mean, I am a nationalist myself to the point that I would join the army when I become a citizen and get sent to Afghanistan, I’m fine with that.

    Yung problem lang kasi, yung iba ang yabang, napaka-arrogante. “Pinoy race is the best! Proud to be Pinoy! herp derp! Mexicans are useless! hhuuuuuurrrr!” It’s an embarrassment!

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  • mix wrote on 15 November, 2010, 1:49

    Pacquiao = The bestPacquiao = FilipinoTherefore Filipino = The best
    Tama naman ang logic di ba? hahaahah!

    Be proud of the man, not his country. :)

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  • boombox wrote on 15 November, 2010, 3:24

    Oh boy… AP is slowly getting attention here in down south (Cebu).. =)
    I don’t know who is this guy starting the thread but he is spreading the AP article here..

    http://www.istorya.net/forums/politics-and-current-events/338458-those-who-keep-saying-i-am-proud-to-be-a-filipino-when-manny-pacquiao-wins-morons.html

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    aboy Reply:

    I’ve read the comments @ istory.net and ok na gets ko point ng iba… Tama, mag saya tayo dahil nanalo si Pacman, ipagmalaki natin sya… hindi ko inaalis sa mga Pilipino ang kasiyahan na naidulot ng pagkapanalo nya. Pero ganito na lang ba lagi? Sa pagkapanalo ni Pacman o pag labas ni Charice sa Glee tayo magiging Proud bilang Pinoy? At enough na ba itong rason parang maging Proud ang isang Pinoy?

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  • archie wrote on 15 November, 2010, 4:07

    gel santos relos: dumb-dumb and racist. why do these people still propagate the media? toilet humor and racial jokes should go down the drain just like robert garcia who made fun of parkinson’s. nationality shouldn’t be involved with an individual’s defeat.

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  • Thom wrote on 15 November, 2010, 4:15

    41,000 is a very big crowd, but this might say something, particularly about Antonio Margarito and the matchup in general. We got a good fight last night, but maybe this replacement for Floyd Mayweather Jr. just wasn’t up to snuff for most fans, and maybe Margarito doesn’t have the mass backing that they thought he still had from the Mexican audience

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  • Ethan wrote on 15 November, 2010, 4:36

    So what makes a rabid football fan from Spain who shouts “Viva España!” different from the Pinoy who proclaims “Mabuhay ang Pilipino!”? Are Spanish football fans “morons” for expressing pride in their nationality?

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    blueredicedtea Reply:

    because football was a team sport to begin with
    hard to explain but when you read this topic you will get my drift LOL

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    aboy Reply:

    sige… tanungin kita… ano ang difference ng “Viva Espana” at “I am proud to be a Spanish” or Mabuhay ang Pilipinas” at “I am Proud to be a Filipino”? x != y men..

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    Hsing Tao Reply:

    The Spanish Football team was part of a national sports program funded by Spanish taxpayers so yeah, they collectively made the team a success if it won.

    Send a Pinoy team to the World Cup and let’s cheer for it.

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    jake Reply:

    when taken in context, spaniards don’t believe these football teams represent their nationality. it’s just a team they’re rooting for. filipinos treat these global celebrities differently, as if they’re pulling us from poverty, and putting the country to a higher status because we have pacquiaos and charice. shameful.

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    ChinoF

    ChinoF Reply:

    Not much difference for me when you can trace the cause of some violent soccer riots caused by fans to the same kind of attitude some Pacquiao fans exhibit (Take note of the Soccer War; it’s also called football hooliganism). This is the kind of attitude that the writer warns about.

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    ChinoF

    ChinoF Reply:

    Also, here are some sport riot histories. One of them is a boxing match (Bowe/Golota); if Pacquiao fans don’t hold themselves, it can come to this.

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    Jay Reply:

    So what makes a rabid football fan from Spain who shouts “Viva España!

    Uh, because its their NATIONAL TEAM. The phrase doesn’t refer to their country pride, but their support for their national football team. The national team which members have proven themselves as individuals in different FC’s all over Europe. And certainly a national team that has proven itself against other countries in different competitions prior to big, global ones like World Cup.

    Its rather hard for Pinoys to understand when they keep cheering for imminent failures like wishful thinking for the success of the Philippine National basketball team. Reminds me of Raiders fans (NFL) who keep cheering for a dead team owned by an old crone of an owner who expects great things from overpaying for mediocre talent and coaching.

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  • Maki_Alam wrote on 15 November, 2010, 6:24

    Since when has the media ever set a good example? If anything, they’re the f*****g ringleaders (pardon my French). This Gel person is only the tip of the iceberg.

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    ChinoF

    ChinoF Reply:

    You could say that again. Ringleaders indeed.

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    Homer Reply:

    Puppet Masters!!! No problem with your French. It emphasizes the point.

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  • Chris wrote on 15 November, 2010, 7:04

    Maybe we should learn from American’s anyone that goes to the USA can end up as an American and travel the world freely with American passports, but no matter what you do or how long you live in the Philippines you can never become a Filipino. How bad is that a country that loves all visitors but thinks they are the only true nationals and will not accept any others. But have no problem traveling the world with better lives living in other Countries but call themselves Filipino’s when someone is famous and have another passport in hand…. Proud Filipino stays Filipino like Pacman!!!! 3RN4

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  • EthanRei wrote on 15 November, 2010, 7:50

    Hi guys,

    I agree that we are wrong to say “Proud to be a Filipino” when Manny wins. We should just be proud of him – he’s doing well for himself.

    Don’t jump on me rafterman but I’d like to make a comment about this article. I get what you say about some Filipinos being moronic. That’s because you don’t need to convince me. I’m with you. I share the frustration. But to someone who isn’t, maybe the choice of words is offensive? So instead of rallying people to your, and in effect AP’s side, they are turned away? It becomes offensive rather than persuasive? And when it sounds offensive, it can come across as condescending, like everyone here is too good for the rest? It’s also like waking someone up not with a strong tap but a kick in the groin?

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    Jay Reply:

    So instead of rallying people to your, and in effect AP’s side, they are turned away?

    Maybe so, however the fact we’ve already pointed out the common sense yet people still don’t get it means they are denying the truth through ignorance. It sounds offensive to them of course because they are ignoring the truth in the issue, and focusing on the fact the statement hurts, which to them it does. So its just a rude awakening approach, which in ways could work since pinoys don’t like confrontation. Having them come out and face the issue as it is and force them to swallow their pride may help get the message clearer, at the risk of making enemies to get a truth out.

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    Aegis-Judex Reply:

    If you appear condescending when you speak the truth, so be it. Better a condescending truth than an acceptable lie.

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  • jake wrote on 15 November, 2010, 9:12


    media is leading all of this foolishness. always highlighting the half-pinoy in this competition or the half-pinoy in that TV show. and ending the argument with “we are the best” as if the whole nation is represented by pacquiao or charice. yes, they’re inspiring, and it’s good to know that filipinos can achieve feats like that.

    i really have no problem with the “proud to be pinoy” statement, as long as taken in context. one can proud to be pinoy because we have some of the best beaches in the world. one can proud to be pinoy because the country has the best boxer today. but not to the point of insisting that these outlier successes represent the pinoy, and that we are the best and should be proud.

    no wonder the whole country still votes for the likes of Erap or FPJ and now, Noynoy – the one time big time “heroes” they all imagine.

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    Hsing Tao Reply:

    Correct!

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  • drewphil wrote on 15 November, 2010, 11:19

    When we Filipinos say “We are proud to be Filipinos” in relation to Pacquiao, Charice, or many other famous Filipinos, we don’t intend nor convey to take credit of their own individual achievements. What most Filipinos would like to express is that we are proud meaning we are happy, we feel blessed, for a fellowman that has achieved great things. It’s the same feeling that parents, good or bad, feel about their children doing good things. A nationality, just like a family or friendship, is a form of association that brings to it a connection, a sort of belongingness. When one in the family, in a friendship, or in a nation, triumphs or fails, that connection is all the more felt or becomes obvious amongst us and other nations. If we Filipinos feel and say “we are proud to be Filipinos” everytime Manny wins, or Charice or Lea Salonga” is given merits, we say that because we our genuinely proud or elated that one of us had achieved something and might possibly create good image of everyone. We don’t take credit for what they’ve achieved, we only feel part of of it, not to say we were part of their molding, but just to say they are part of our nation. Someone has put us on the map, that Filipinos may have talent, that’s all there is to this “we are proud to be Filipinos” statement.

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    ChinoF

    ChinoF Reply:

    Unfortunately, there are others who don’t share the more toned down concept of pride that you have, as I noted here. They’re the target of this article.

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    Hsing Tao Reply:

    Unfortunately, DA PINOY does not see it that way. Just look at Gel Santos Relos, she is a TV personality and see how she uses the Pac Man victory as a platform to step on other nationalities. Humor at the expense of others? How low can one go, media pa naman. What a sad country.

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  • nitesoul wrote on 15 November, 2010, 12:10

    nakakahiya naman ang “joke” ni gel santos… pambihira, aren’t these people thinking thoroughly?
    nakakahiya naman sa mga mexicans, ano tayo, superior!? naman! we can be happy for Manny’s victory BUT those kind of BS jokes are not really helping.

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    Hsing Tao Reply:

    Gel probably thought inaangat nya Pinoy sa sinabi niya. Binaba niya lang LALO.

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  • Diana Mendoza wrote on 15 November, 2010, 17:07

    What other Filipino has had such a rags to riches story and still retained some semblance of humility? I admire this young man for his perseverance. Is he a hero? No. Does my husband feel anymore proud of his heritage because this young man made his dreams come true? No. I can honestly say I do not recall a proud Filipino moment in the 37 years I have been married and my husband cannot recall a heroe since Jose Rizal. As for the ABS CBN news personality, at the same time we are building a Paquiao statue to keep out illegal Mexican immigrants, whose staue should we build to scare off the Tago na Tago? If you cannot be proud of your heritage for the differnce you have made in the world, do not put your eggs in one basket and count on one small rags to riches man to make you feel better about yourself.

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  • Josh wrote on 16 November, 2010, 1:11

    Hahaha. She deleted it na. Just when the argument was getting interesting.

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  • JoshBeoulve wrote on 16 November, 2010, 1:20

    Awwww. She deleted it. Just when the argument was getting interesting. Tsk tsk tsk.

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  • JoshBeoulve wrote on 16 November, 2010, 1:50

    Wala, she deleted the post na. Tsk tsk tsk. So much for being “happy to exchange ideas”. And just when the argument was getting interesting.

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    Haw Reply:

    Yeah, just when i’m already in the mood airing additional opinion on her comment.

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    Hsing Tao Reply:

    Here is the “joke” and the ensuing debate, preserved for posterity…
    http://getrealphilippines.blogspot.com/2010/11/gel-relos-santos-manny-pacquiao-statue.html

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  • MindLeaks wrote on 16 November, 2010, 4:13

    It think we Filipinos should refrain from riding on the success of other people. We should make our own success and be proud of it or even brag about it. While it is not wrong to be proud for Manny and other successful Filipino, it is not right to just ride on to their success like you have a big part of it.

    http://mindleaks.com/manny-pacquiao-won-what-now-philippines/

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  • brianitus wrote on 16 November, 2010, 5:08

    Kung humirit na ng ganun si Gel Santos Relos, ibig sabihin ay handa na rin sya tumanggap ng patawa na aimed sa Pinoy. Mabuhay siya. Wala siyang paki kung inokray ang Pilipinas ng mga dayuhan.

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  • someguy wrote on 16 November, 2010, 6:23

    Okay they’ve got to be ****ting me. I’ve just watched the news earlier and my God these political analysts, congressmen and kababayan idiots better shoot themselves on the head from what they said. Pacquiao for president? DO NOT WANT!!!

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    someguy Reply:

    Here’s the link btw. Kasama rin pala ang mga senador:http://ph.news.yahoo.com/ann/20101116/tph-filipino-senators-weigh-in-on-boxer-fb8bb4f.html

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    Maki_Alam Reply:

    Bob Arum said the same thing, that he truly believed Manny would become President of the Philippines one day because Filipinos revere him and treat him like a demigod. Sadly, Arum might just be right. I like Manny and all. He’s a good man. But what does that tell you (and the rest of the world for that matter) of our country if it actually came true and people elected a boxer into the highest office in the land?

    Oh well, I guess it wouldn’t be the first time. If Erap can be President, then I suppose ANYONE can be President.

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    Jack Reply:

    You are right…but America too elected Ronald Reagon who was an actor and countless others like Arnold to california etc…

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    Jay Reply:

    Arnold actually was pretty decent mind you as a governor, and since he was a foreign born, AFAIK that is the highest post of a public servant a foreign born can attain.

    And tell me if Pinoy politicians are keen of not being paid for their work. Arnold certainly declined the governor salary, stating that he’s already too damn rich.

    Sadly, Arum might just be right.

    Arum might have profit in mind in that statement, but can you blame a businessman/promoter trying to do his job?

    ANYONE can be President.

    Sadly, not anyone with balls to help break the cycle. But truth to the point, the country elected the village idiot to the highest post so yeah… as long as we’re running our failed democracy, we vote in a tarsier. But it will be the FIRST TARSIER as leader of a free nation!

  • MARLO wrote on 16 November, 2010, 7:13

    I AM A PROUD FILIPINO NOT BECAUSE OF MANNY, CHARICE, LEA AND WHOSOEVER.. I AM PROUD TO BE A FILIPINO BECAUSE OF THE CHARACTERISTIC I HAVE THAT ONLY A FILIPINO HAVE…PRIDE SHOULD BEGIN WITHIN OURSELVES.. A PRIDE WITH A SENSE OF NATIONALITY AND NOT JUST BECAUSE OF STARDOM ACHIEVED BY SOME OF OUR FELLOWS…LET US HELP OUR NATION TO RISE AGAIN, IN ORDER FOR US TO REGAIN OUR DIGNITY IN THE COMMUNITY OF NATIONS……………….

    ELH8

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    AlvinEternal Reply:

    Fact: Pride is not of accident of birth. It’s what you achieve. What makes these people successful is their hard work & discipline.

    BTW, ang ganda ng post mo. *Godai thumbs up*

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  • ako ang simula ng pagkabobo wrote on 16 November, 2010, 7:53

    nung isang araw nadinig ko sa news na magpapasa ng resolusyon para bigyan ng award si Pacman. Best congressman sumting. Duh.

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  • innagadda54 wrote on 16 November, 2010, 9:12

    Will the same people be proud if Manny is discovered doping?

    http://cornholiogogs.multiply.com/journal/item/1115/Manny_Dancing_Circles_Outside_The_Ring

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  • Roberto Carlos wrote on 16 November, 2010, 9:58

    It is moronic to some extent, like what that idiotic Relos Santos said. But saying “I am proud to Filipino” is in no sense as stupid or arrogant as others perceive it to be. Manny epitomizes Filipino morality. He shows compassion and humility, something you see very seldom in fighters [
    http://michaeldsellers.weearth.com/2010/11/14/pacquiao-margarito-what-we-can-learn-from-the-humility-empathy-and-grace-of-manny-pacquiao/. And this is seen not only inside the ring but also outside where he swore a life of servitude to help his countrymen. His fights in and out of the ring are an inspiration of Filipino values, where a lot of people can learn from.

    Because of this, I am proud to be Filipino.

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    Jay Reply:

    Manny epitomizes Filipino morality. He shows compassion and humility,

    LOLNO. Otherwise the pinoys as a whole would have shown the world their humility in august 23. Especially a certain leader of the country who showed ZERO regarding that event.

    As I read in a FB comment, don’t include the nation when someone is doing good and isolate the bad guy when someone made a huge mistake. Hence why Pinoys moan and groan when sh*t hits the fan to make them look bad but celebrate their being pinoyness when someone makes them look good as a whole. Their decisions are theirs only and so are their accomplishments, which they put in the work and dedication in order to reach where they are today, be it out of goodwill or infamy.

    His fights in and out of the ring are an inspiration of Filipino values, where a lot of people can learn from.

    Sadly they are learning wrong. Otherwise they would strive to take values that Manny used for hard work, dedication, that many successful people use, even like Arnold schwarzenegger and apply it in what they do and what they hope to visualize themselves becoming. Instead they visualize themselves in Manny’s place.

    Because of this, I am proud to be Filipino.

    LOLNO. You can’t be proud of a genetic accident. You can be happy, or any emotion but you cannot be proud of something you didn’t accomplish. I for one though am proud that I got through a rough 30 hour week while still keeping up with studies, mental sharpness through exercise, a good diet while engaging people and making relationships. For that I am happy.

    You can be proud of Manny’s accomplishments, which you can state so otherwise. But you can’t be proud of something you didn’t put any effort in, even if it is a sad attempt to transplant manny’s accomplishments and values to pinoys, because regardless of Pinoy values or not, Manny did the work and made decisions to put himself where he is now, not the pinoy people he helps that claims pride.

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